Being a Better Worldian By Being Who You Are
Podcast #3 — Aired October 24, 2013

To make a difference, be authentic. This week on BetterWorldians Radio we’ll focus on how being in touch with yourself is the first step toward doing good in the world. We speak with Sheva Carr, CEO of Fyera! and Director of HeartMath’s HeartMastery Program. Carr’s unique journey through various trials, successes and experiences illustrate the importance of being true to oneself. Tune in every week to hear new guests share how they are making the world a better place and to learn how you can become a BetterWorldian!

 

 

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Sheva Carr
Director, HeartMath's HeartMastery
CEO, Fyera!

Sheva Carr is the architect and Director of HeartMath’s HeartMastery Program, the CEO of Fyera! and the founding Executive Director of the Fyera Foundation and Sunflower SunPower Kids. She is a PathwaysToPeace.org Director and Delegate to the United Nations, and featured as a "love luminary" in Marci Schimoff's New York Times bestselling book "Love for No Reason." As a doctor of Oriental Medicine and HeartMath trainer, she has authored several books (most recently "Being the Source of Love"). Through her alliance with CreativityForPeace.com, Sheva helps to bring young Israeli and Palestinian woman together in retreat settings, where they have become fast friends and global peace builders. Sheva speaks to people all over the world on how to access heart intelligence and inner peace, in order to receive the benefits of the heart’s impact on consciousness, health, performance, creativity, and social change, to create cultures of personal and global peace.

Episode Transcript

Gregory Hansell
Hi this is Gregory. Thanks everyone for joining us today on BetterWorldians Radio. Now let me tell you just a bit about my dad, Ray, who you just heard from. He is a serial entrepreneur, who successfully founded, and with MarySue, took public a national marketing firm. Giving back has always been important to Dad who supports cancer research, disabled children, and disadvantaged families. This week on BetterWorldians Radio, we are talking about being a Better Worldian by being who you are. You know, being in touch with yourself, your passions, your hopes, your dreams, is really the first step to making a difference in the world. Real change in the world can only grow out of authentic being, not putting on a mask. You must be true to who you are. Our guest this week, Sheva Carr, has dedicated her lifes work to doing just that. Well be hearing about Shevas authentic journey and how it has led to a very successful life.

MarySue Hansell
Sheva Carr is the architect and director of HeartMaths Heart Mastery Program, the CEO of Fyera Heart Ambassadors, and the founding Executive Director of the Fyera Foundation and Sunflower Power Kids. Sheva speaks to people all over the world on how to access heart intelligence to create personal and global peace. Sheva, its a great to have you on the show. Welcome.

Sheva Carr
Hello. Its great to be here. Im sure when people hear your preamble, theyre like me. Theyre like wow, this is so fun. I get to be here with you.

MarySue Hansell
Oh, its an honor to have you here. Id like to start by talking to you about a very exciting meeting you recently had. Who did you meet, Sheva?

Sheva Carr
Yes, I when we sent out the announcement about this radio interview, I forwarded it to MarySue and it was in our newsletter with photos of lets see. Where are we? A week ago today I had just flown back from being in Mexico with an incredibly exciting initiative. President Vicente Fox and his wife, Marta, who President Fox who was the president of Mexico from the year 2000 to 2006. And subsequently in his tenure as president, he has dedicated his life alongside his wife to really bettering the lives of starting with the Mexican people and expanding to Latin America and in the world to creating the first Mexican presidential library. So he is emulating what we do here in the states with presidential libraries, but truth be told, presidential libraries in the states tend to be ego aggrandizements of the presidents theyre about. In this particular case, the library is a center for leadership education for impoverished Mexican children around the country who come from all over to learn about creating a better world and being leaders in that process. And part of President Foxs goal is to keep Mexicans in Mexico instead of, you know, siloing them out to work in agriculture in other countries and to do that by giving them opportunities for higher education and wellbeing and healthcare and having all of their basic needs met. So it was really extraordinary because there were a group of six-year-olds going through President Foxs program while we were there and he asked them outright. He said how many of you want to go work in the states? And all of them raised their hands. And he said okay, how many of you would stay in Mexico instead of working in the states in agriculture if you knew you could go to university? And every six-year-old in that room raised their hand. So this is what he is creating and as part of that, because of his stature as a head of state, he has attracted extraordinary leaders from around the world to contribute to his vision and mission, one of them being the Dalai Lama. So I had the incredible privilege its a dream come true to experience for me personally to be invited as one of fifty fifty change makers in the world to be to stay at President Foxs ranch with him and meet him and his wife and tour the ranch, learn about what theyre doing, and then have a meeting with the Dalai Lama there. There were two meetings, one with eight thousand Mexicans that were invited to just bask in the Dalai Lamas beautiful, beautiful, radiant, joyful laughing, continuously laughing presence. And then we had a semi-private sitting with him as well and

MarySue Hansell
I thought the picture looked so cute with him with the big sombrero, the Mexican sombrero.

Sheva Carr
Yeah, the Dalai Lama with a sombrero.

MarySue Hansell
What did you take away from that experience, Sheva?

Sheva Carr
You know, part of being a BetterWorldian I think, and this is one of my favorite quotes from President Fox, he said to us again and again, you know, Marta and I, he said, are some of the happiest people I know in the world because weve learned that the shortcut to happiness is being for the other. So I am rarely in experiences anymore for what I can take away. Its a matter of looking for, you know, I must be here for a reason and I must have something to give if Im here. And for me being in that circumstance was very exciting because it opened new portals of service opportunity for me, both with President Fox and the presidential library, and my father happens to have a library of ten thousand books that we are looking to donate to some place that could really use them. So well be donating my fathers library to President Fox and doing, hopefully, a book campaign for to raise funds to fill the bookshelves there which can have one hundred and ten thousand books. So that was a very exciting birth of a new service opportunity for me. And with the Dalai Lama, it was so clear to me, you know, that the incredible suffering his people have gone through and that he personally has gone through and being exiled for more than now half of his life

MarySue Hansell
Yes.

Sheva Carr
You know, half a century in exile with the largest populated country in the world seeking to murder him. You know, I could see the intelligence of how that has happened in that it has caused the beautiful wisdom, traditions of the ancient Buddhists and secular teachings of Tibet to leave their sequester in that tiny oasis in the middle of the mountains of the Himalayas and venture out to become world-wide, accessible, skills and suffering for all of us. Me personally, I was deeply influenced by the Dalai Lama growing up and so what it gave me was the opportunity, sleeping one hundred feet away from him on the ranch which was quite an amazing experience

MarySue Hansell
Oh, you stayed at the ranch also.

Sheva Carr
Sleeping in the Dalai Lamas field while he was out doing his meditations was quite extraordinary. I woke up every hour going wow. What is he doing over there?

MarySue Hansell
What an experience.

Sheva Carr
I wrote a personal letter, you know, just to thank him and say I hope that you feel now that even though you are exiled from Tibet, that every place in the world is your home. Here we are in Mexico waving Tibetan flags, you know, that the wisdom of (Speakers overlapping) human suffering has spread through the world and thanks to all that you were willing to go through. So that that was

MarySue Hansell
What an experience that was. Well anyway, Sheva, I also wanted to ask you. I know you were recently featured in Marci Shimoffs bestselling book, Love for No Reason, and you were featured as a love luminary. What was that all about? Could you tell us a story about that?

Sheva Carr
Yes. Well, and again, to de-emphasize myself in that, it wasnt me that was featured. It was really, I suppose, I was as a love luminary, yes, kind of funny right next to the Dalai Lama. That is more exciting for me. But no, the reality is what was featured is not me but the relationship that I had and the inspiration that occurred between me and children living in the streets of Nicaragua during the Contra Revolution there. There were over six hundred thousand children left homeless as a result of the long standing wars that Nicaragua faced starting with the insurrection of their Sandinista Revolution in 1979 and then yielding CIA backed Contra Revolution that left many children on the streets, a ten year economic embargo from the United States, and so on. And so in my third year of college, I went down to Nicaragua as part of a college education program. I was doing field work and theoretically was doing street theater that was part of a literacy campaign to raise what in Spanish they call the alphabetation, the literacy of the country, and ended up completely falling in love with the street children there. And I always say that I received more from them than I ever gave to them because they really taught me when you have nothing, how to appreciate and share everything. And their spirits and joy, joie de vivre were so intoxicating and contagious. They were a living transmission of joy. And so it was natural and effortless to give my heart and everything I had to them. I was in a lot of danger during that time because I happened to be there when the change in power took place and the ending of the economic embargo in a very fragile political clime. I myself was kidnapped at gun point and all kinds of things occurred and so I was forced at a certain point out of my own safety needs to leave.

MarySue Hansell
Yes.

Sheva Carr
And ended up leaving the children that had become like my own limbs behind and this is now 1989 so street kids didnt have like they do today by the way, cell phones or emails, you know. They certainly didnt have a street address. They didnt even have shoes so there was no way for us to be in touch and it broke my heart.

MarySue Hansell
I guess it was they were like your children.

Sheva Carr
Yes, although even more so because I didnt actually, you know, I didnt have to cut my chops on them. I didnt have stretch marks or sleepless nights to show for it. I got to just fall in love with them. And so I was truly brokenhearted and we know now from science that that a broken heart is more than just a metaphor. It can produce physiological changes in your body that truly create disease and it did that for me. Seeing what I saw in Nicaragua and discovering that we need a better world first hand was like Prince Siddhrtha, who later become the Buddha, leaving his sheltered life and seeing the reality that so many on our planet live in in suffering. So it was my awakening and my the cracking of my heart that opened it to be spill out more into the world in service. But first I had to pass through my own suffering and I suffered severe symptoms of post-traumatic stress for eight years that no one could diagnose. I was in and out of the hospital and came to learn through an institute in California called HeartMath that it was really my emotional broken heartedness that was making me not well. So every day as a discipline for my own self-healing, I started breathing and transforming the grief and despair and failure I felt at leaving these children behind in the war

MarySue Hansell
Oh, what an experience.

Sheva Carr
Into love and appreciation that I had known them at all, and appreciating their lives and the gifts they had given me. And out of that, a miracle occurred that maybe we can share after your break?

Raymond Hansell
Oh, wed love to. I really appreciate all of this and I hate to interrupt but we need to take a break right now but were going to talk a lot more about HeartMath and heart mastery when we come back. In the meantime, you can learn more at betterworldians.com and follow our live tweets at Twitter dot com slash BetterWorldians. Well be right back. >> The Internets number one talk station, voiceamerica.com. >> How can we make it a better world? >> I think we can make it a better world if we had peace among each other. >> Everybody needs to help their neighbor and then it will spread from there on. >> I should do more. >> I could do more. I spend so much time on Facebook. >> How much time do I spend on Facebook? >> Probably more than I should be spending. >> I would definitely give back if I could find the time. >> Now you can help others just by playing a game on Facebook. Its called A Better World. Share your hopes and dreams, do good deeds, make a difference, and have fun. Become a BetterWorldian. Join a community where all good deeds get rewarded. Log in today to find out how you can make a difference every day. >> For more information, visit facebook.com/abetterworld. >> What would you do if you knew you could not fail? The Dr. Pat show with Dr. Pat Baccili is a radio forum for some of the worlds most influential people in the fields of health, wellness, and human potential. Dr. Pat brings together and introduces visionary scientists and futurists, environmentalists, educators, business leaders, inventors, film makers, authors, artists, mystics, and healers who inspire and support individual and collective growth and positive cultural shifts. This award winning radio show empowers the listening community to be the change they want to see in the world. Tune in every Thursday at 8 AM pacific for the Dr. Pat show with Dr. Pat Baccili. Radio to drive by. >> Ask the experts. Call toll-free right now. 1-866-472-5787. >> Hello? >> And ask our all-star team to answer your question. That is 1-866-472-5787. >> Thank you for calling. >> voiceamerica.com. >> This is BetterWorldians Radio with a family team of Ray, MarySue, and Gregory Hansell. To connect with the show today, please call us at 1-866-472-5788. That is 1-866-472-5788. You may also send us an email to radio at betterworldians.com. Now back to BetterWorldians Radio.

MarySue Hansell
So, Sheva, your experience in Nicaragua ultimately lead you to HeartMath. Would you tell us exactly what HeartMath is for our listeners?

Sheva Carr
I dont know about ultimately leading me to HeartMath. I hope its not over yet.

MarySue Hansell
Alright.

Sheva Carr
Adventure keeps continuing for sure. You know, HeartMath is a body of research based on thirty-five years of inquiry at this research institute at HeartMath where they have uncovered that the basic human stress response which creates over 1,400 changes in our body and mind, that influence how we function, what part of our brain perceives what is happening and responds and ultimately our health and wellbeing. It can all be mitigated by a shift in heart rhythms and the heart rhythms can be self-regulated through what we might call a mastery of emotions. Emotions dont just happen to us. Certainly they do happen to us in reaction to life events, but they dont just happen to us in reaction to life events. We can take charge of our emotional response to things and when we do, it turns out we can actually take charge of our personal health in many situations and the outcomes of life events. And so that was the teaching that I received when I came to volunteer at HeartMath almost twenty years ago. The job they gave me by grace was to transcribe their research as a volunteer. And after eight years of suffering from all of these erratic symptoms, having lived in the war zone in Nicaragua and abandoned my street children there, I discovered transcribing HeartMaths research that what I was experiencing and the breakdown of my body were the symptoms of stress. This was a jaw dropped discovery for me and the fact that I could do something about it was equally jaw dropping and so I had a lot of incentive as a young medical student at the time hearing this research to really try and apply the skills I was learning to help myself get well. And so I really earnestly every day took my despair that I felt and depression about these kids, many of whom I thought had died actually. After I left, hurricane Mitch blew through Nicaragua and I know many of them were conscripted to fight in the war and there is the destiny would have been prostitution or other things to survive. It was a bleak picture I left them in. And so I had to translate that sense of deep responsibility I felt for the devastation of their lives into love for them and the love that was in it for them in my heart all along. And I did that every day as a practice for my own health and wellbeing and it did work to heal my body. What I didnt know it was doing across the gap of time and space was continuing to connect us. And so years after that, twelve years after I left them behind on Easter Sunday in a warzone, I got a call in my medical office in Los Angeles saying do you remember Julio, Anna Raquel (ph), and Jorge. I basically dropped the phone out of my hand and started sobbing. What do you mean, do I remember them? Of course I remember them. So then I really lost it when the voice said would you like to speak to Anna Raquel. It was her new husband. He put her on the phone. She had married an ex-pat and was living in Ohio and had kept my name on a little, tiny, ripped up piece of loose leaf paper with a Canadian phone number on it and handed it to her husband, Felix, and said this is one of my mothers. This is my mother, Sheva. She lives in Canada. You have to find her for me.

MarySue Hansell
And how old were they when you originally

Sheva Carr
Anna Raquel was nine and when she found me, then she and her husband and I set out to find Jorge and Julio who was her brother who we later found in jail. But when we found Jorge, he had a daughter named after me and was running an orphanage in my name. And he had no parents. He had been living on the streets. When I met Jorge, he was selling peanuts because he wanted to become a doctor and so I bought all of his peanuts and for several years was able to stay in touch and put him through school until we lost contact. And so he had indeed become a psychologist and was running an orphanage when we were reunited.

MarySue Hansell
I love that story, Sheva. Can you give us an example of what HeartMath techniques you used to actually overcome all of the stress that you had?

Sheva Carr
The fundamental principle of the HeartMath science that was published in the American Journal of Cardiology in 1991 is that emotions effect heart rhythms and heart rhythms effect emotions and that we can self-regulate both. So there are technologies through which you can see your heart rhythm in real-time. There is one called the Inner Balance app that you can purchase for the iPhone or iPad or any IOS device. And there is another that is an independent handheld device called the emWave if you dont have an IOS device. It maintains your heart rhythm in real-time so you can see them and self-adjust. And the main adjustment is by focusing your attention on the area around your heart which I invite all of your listeners to do now, allowing all of the breath to come in through the heart and go out through the heart. Then what I would say that I did and is detailed in much more refinement in Marci Shimoffs book Love for No Reason, is to seek this true care behind the over care that causes imbalance. So most of us that care, and anyone who is listened to this radio show is interested in being a BetterWorldian obviously cares, so most of us who care deeply can care so much that were willing to throw ourselves out of balance in that care. We wouldnt get angry or worried or frustrated if we didnt care. But it turns out that the car underneath the anger, the worry, the frustration, the despair at the worlds situation or our own, balances our physiology because the human heart was meant to operate on caring. When we care, and this is a piece of research published in the American Journal of Cardiology, our heart rhythm becomes ordered. It goes into this unique, ordered pattern that brings harmony to all of the rest of our bodys systems. And when we over care, when were willing to let our care get carried away so it throws us out of balance, then that creates system-wide disorder through chaos in the heart rhythm.

MarySue Hansell
Sheva

Sheva Carr
One of the questions to ask yourself is, as youre breathing in through the heart and out through the heart, what is my true care here? What is the care underneath this over caring that would bring balance to my system and effectiveness to my responses? That brings skillful means to create a better world.

MarySue Hansell
Beautiful. Beautiful. I wanted to share with our listeners that I did attend some of your classes and I even hate to think how many years ago it was now, Sheva, but I still remember all of the techniques and I do practice them. And they have been so helpful and I remember using the emWave and do use it periodically and I remember that chaotic, when youre upset and nervous. You look jagged. And then when you are calm, it kind of did like a sound wave. So I would highly recommend it. And I understand that you have a special offer that you may want to mention to our listeners?

Sheva Carr
Absolutely. If someone feels called to, you know, I always say the heart cant be patented, trademarked, or sold. Everybodys got one and it is your birthright to live from it. And inside your heart is a blueprint really for your contribution to a better world. This is the heart of who you are. It is intrinsic to you. You dont need to wear any particular deodorant or buy any specific chewing gum or take any class because it is your nature. But if you are like me and you have stacked so many layers between you and your heart out of hurt or out of despair, the worlds situation, and you need tools to remember what is possible and the living miracle you are, then we have them, and I needed them. So if youre one of those people like me that could use some tools to re-access your heart, connect to your hearts purpose and that unique fulfillment package that opens up when, as President Fox says, you know how to live in balanced harmony for the world, then then we have classes. We want to make those classes obviously available to anyone who wants to create a better world because thats why we created the classes.

MarySue Hansell
Oh, theyre wonderful.

Sheva Carr
Precisely for that purpose. So if you go to our website, Heart Mastery dot com, and click on our beginner course which is called shift to the heart in the shops in the upper left-hand corner of the shop, and you enter the coupon in all capital letters, BETTER WORLD, then A BETTER WORLD, all capitals, you will receive that for more than a 50% discount. I believe you can take the four week beginner course with five pre-recorded webinars you can download and keep for the rest of your life to watch again and again and again as well as access to four live discussion groups and group coaching calls where you can get specific, personalized attention and help to step into your unique purpose in the world. Then you can get all of that for ninety-nine dollars.

MarySue Hansell
That is so generous, Sheva. Thank you for making that available to our BetterWorldians community and I would highly recommend that our listeners take advantage of it.

Sheva Carr
You know, its so funny right because as you step into this living from the heart and the heart is even just physiologically knows and completely understands how to give and receive simultaneously because that is what the heart does. When it contracts, it feeds the body. When it expands, it feeds itself. Never martyrs itself. If the heart doesnt feed itself, the whole body dies. And it never disregards the whole. It is always living in concert and service to the wholeness of who we are, and so the heart intelligence has within it the map of how we can live our lives that very same way for the world and in service to the world without martyring ourselves. And so the Dalai Lama says, you know, the truly selfish person would always want to learn to be altruistic because it is the most fulfilling and healthy thing we can do.

Raymond Hansell
That is so true. That is so true. Sheva, thanks for telling us about HeartMath and how listeners can apply it and specifically thank you for that offer. Im sure a lot of people will want to take advantage of that. Id like to ask a question about how listening your heart prompted your work in global peace.

Sheva Carr
I am so delighted to share that but you reminded me first to let the listeners know two other things that we had talked about. One is 50% of the ninety-nine dollars, if they choose to purchase, would normally have gone to MarySue, Greg, and everyone at a Better World to help you guys doing what youre doing and Ray of course. And you guys, as part of your altruism, decided to give that back to the programs that are making a difference.

MarySue Hansell
Yes, Sunflower Kids. We definitely

Sheva Carr
So 50% of, if you choose to take the course, will actually be donated directly to the children we work with in Nicaragua. So thank you guys for that. That is amazing. And also if listeners are curious about the class and not sure if it is the right avenue for you but want to explore HeartMath techniques and how they might help you or how you might learn how to teach these techniques to your own clients in the work you do in the world, you can also sign up for a complimentary thirty minute consultation with us with a licensed HeartMath provider to explore the whole HeartMath universe and see which aspects of it would be right for you. You can do that on the homepage of Heart Mastery dot com. So as, you know, as I said to MarySue earlier, it is not like my time in Nicaragua led me ultimately to HeartMath. It keeps unfolding, you know. Life is like this beautiful rose when you live it from your heart. It just keeps unfolding and opening and unfolding and opening and surprising you with the next layer of fragrance. And so HeartMath has been pivotal in my journey and foundational to everything else I do. And as I keep practicing the skills and unfolding my heart, it keeps unfolding what we call at HeartMath my hearts blueprint. Really the thing that led me to HeartMath after eight years of suffering in and out of hospitals and so on was a prayer for peace.

Raymond Hansell
Okay.

Sheva Carr
I remember distinctly sitting on a mountain top on a ski trip with a friend just so exasperated with my own trauma. And I had never prayed before. I was raised in an atheist family actually and I sat on that mountaintop with my skis in the snow next to me and just said, you know what, its not even important to me anymore if my body ever heals but I cannot have my life force contributing to the global chaos and despair. Please just show me how to be an influence for peace in this world because if my life cant be peaceful and if I cant broadcast peace, then I am a nuisance to this planet. That was my prayer basically. And a week later I found myself sitting with the founder of HeartMath who taught me that peace comes from inside the heart itself and as we self-regulate heart rhythms, we do indeed broadcast peace far beyond our body. And that is measurable. HeartMath has a whole new initiative called the global coherence initiative in which they are placing sensor sites around the world, measuring the impact of human emotion on the earths ionosphere because they saw the ionosphere disturbed after 9/11 and the attacks on the trade towers. And NASA scientists who were monitoring the earths ionosphere at that time knew that there had been much bigger explosions on the planet than those that hadnt influenced the geomagnetic field of the earth. So the only thing they could attribute that disturbance to in the earths field was collective human emotion. This set NASA scientist Elizabeth Rauscher to seek out HeartMath researchers and together they launched something that is exploring today what Jack Canfield calls the greatest experiment in human history. Can we influence the earth itself by what we are choosing to broadcast to the field through our hearts, by aligning with our true care and living from that? So it was the true care for peace that brought me to HeartMath. It was actually a true care for peace that brought me to a war zone in Nicaragua. And that, aligning with that through the use of HeartMath skills again and again has continued to unfold surprises in my life path including through this deep commitment to peace, a role as a director on a circle of directors of a remarkable organization that has been doing active peace-building in the culture of peace initiatives for the last thirty-five years called Pathways to Peace. Pathways to Peace was founded by Avon Mattison. In 1983, they collaborated with the United Nations to create the international day of peace which is September 21st of every year. And in fact, the same research study through the global coherence initiative and NASA has measured changes in the earths field on the international day of peace, finding that with nations and individuals all over the world focused on peace on that one day, that also changes the earths field toward more harmony. Isnt that interest?

MarySue Hansell
It is, very.

Raymond Hansell
That is amazing. That is absolutely amazing.

Sheva Carr
And so through my work with Pathways to Peace, I have also had an alliance partnership for a number of years with a remarkable organization called Creativity for Peace which has afforded me the incredible blessing and opportunity to mentor young women, peace builders from Israel and Palestine, and to teach them the HeartMath skills and also empower them as facilitators of HeartMath skills in the West Bank, in Gaza, in Israel, and in their universities throughout Jordan and refugee camps. So they are sharing the great news of the heart themselves with people there and we travel together to meet and recently were in Rhodes, Greece with twelve of our leading adjunct leaders in this program for Creativity for Peace which you can learn more about at Creativity for Peace dot com. These young leaders began as campers in the peace summer camp that we have for young women ages fourteen to eighteen who come for three weeks to Santa Fe, New Mexico. We always bring the girls to neutral territory. And this camp in Santa Fe, New Mexico started by the founders of Creativity for Peace is just extraordinary. They bring young women from quote/unquote the other side together, many of whom have never had the opportunity to meet one another. So they dont have the opportunity to communicate with each other. And through art projects and dialogs and now the use of HeartMath skills, these young women come to learn that an enemy, as their slogan goes, is a friend whose story you have yet to hear.

Raymond Hansell
Thats amazing.

Sheva Carr
On the first night of one of the camps, a young Palestinian teenager and her Israeli Jewish counterpart were sobbing and refused to go to bed because they were paired to share a room and they were certain they would kill each other in the middle of the night. They didnt want to sleep in each others presence. On the last day of camp, because the Palestinian girls have to fly through a different airport and once in the country because of the barbed wire fences and walls and checkpoints that are setup, these girls cant communicate with each other except through our Facebook pages, they were sobbing at the airport because they didnt want to say goodbye. They had become best friends.

Raymond Hansell
That is amazing. What a wonderful story. Were going to take one more break. I would like to thank Sheva for sharing that amazing story and the impact that HeartMath has had on her life and on the lives of people around the world, also for the offer to our listeners of the Shift to the Heart course plus the additional month for the daily heart start for ninety-nine dollars. To access that offer, you can go to betterworldians.com. When we come back, you can ask Sheva some more questions about HeartMath and some of her experiences that related from that. You can call in at 1-866-472-5788. Thats 1-866-472-5788. You can also send us an email at Radio at betterworldians.com or you can tweet us a question at Twitter dot com slash BetterWorldians. Well be right back.

Raymond Hansell
Hi. Were back with Sheva Carr, Director of HeartMaths Heart Mastery program. Feel free to send in any questions you have. You can call in at 1-866-472-5788. You can also email us at radio at betterworldians.com and tweet us a question at Twitter dot com slash BetterWorldians.

Gregory Hansell
Hi Sheva, this is Greg.

Sheva Carr
Hello, Greg.

Gregory Hansell
You know, I want to first thank you on setting such an amazing example for our BetterWorldians. Youve had a really rich journey, incredibly multi-faceted life and career. So thank you and congratulations. As you say, its not over yet.

Sheva Carr
I hope not.

Gregory Hansell
You know, so youve been involved in so many areas and so much fascinating work. My first question to you is how do you see the connection between peace and the heart with authenticity, our theme for today.

Sheva Carr
Im really glad that youre asking about that, you know, because in a way, what were talking about here with all of the stories are side effects. Were talking about the side effects and stories like this, I know when I listen to other people on the radio talk about their stories like this, I get intimidated myself. I feel like, God, Im such a shmuck. Im not doing anything in the world and compare myself to them and then that separates me from my own hearts blueprint and what Im here to contribute and unfold. So I wouldnt want to have that impact on anyone listening because what makes the difference isnt the story that we tell or how it looks after it is played out and can be told as a nice story on the radio. Its your being.

Gregory Hansell
Yeah.

Sheva Carr
Mother Theresa said it matters not what we do; only that we do it with love. And these, the stories that were sharing, are the ones that are interesting. But, you know, Im forty-three years old so Ive lived a lot of life and I have worked as a waitress and I have worked as a, you know, were not talking about the mundane things that Ive done but really its in those mundane moments when I have had the pause to stop and tell the truth about what I am feeling and connect with what I really care about, in those moments, that some of the magic happens. In interactions with, you know, people who are customers in the herbal pharmacy where I worked. So its and some of those things blossom into amazing stories as well. You know, I worked in my first year out of college, I worked in a in an oncology and radiology unit where cancer patients were being treated and happened to work in an herbal tonic bar on my off days, and found out what was happening with women in Afghanistan and was so just so rocked to the core when I discovered a woman could be stoned to death for showing her wrist in a market place. That just and so I started. I was living in a little rent controlled apartment in Santa Monica because I had huge student loans I was paying off, working minimum wage as a waitress here and a secretary there while I was trying to get my medical practice off the ground. And I just decided I wanted everything I did to go in some way to support those women. And so every time I came in to my little rent controlled apartment MarySue, I met you there. You saw the ants crawling across my floor and I just, you know, in that humble moment of my life where I felt like I couldnt even pay my own bills let alone make a difference in the world, I just chose that everything I did, the energy of it was going to broadcast to support those women. And so with who I was being, there wasnt anything I could do. I wasnt a wealthy philanthropist. At that point, even though a well-trained physician, I was just just a human being with a heart just like everyone listening to this call is regardless of their other credentials. And I just breathed love to those women while I was washing my dishes, while I was answering my emails, while I was paying the bills I could pay. And two weeks later, three young women showed up in my office, my herbal tonic bar in West Hollywood wearing burkas and it turned out they had brought footage they had smuggled under their burkas of what was happening to women in Afghanistan to Sundance Film Festival through a press correspondent that had seen them in a refugee camp in Pakistan. And these young women came to my tonic bar, believe it or not, for herbs for their zits. Even acne can be an ally. And as we became friends, I sent them emails to their refugee camp in Pakistan about the power of the heart that they translated into three Afghan languages and distributed throughout Afghanistan. Then I got letters back from women there saying they were going to murder themselves and their daughters by drinking cleaning fluid the next day because they didnt think anyone in the world cared what was going on. Then they got my letters and now they were going to live. So its who you are. You dont need any other resources. I have countless stories like this one, starting from nothing, just igniting the love in the heart that is your birthright.

Gregory Hansell
I agree. I think thats absolutely right and I can tell that, you know, being authentic has been important in your interpersonal journal as well. Have you found that out for yourself?

Sheva Carr
Say that last bit one more, Greg?

Gregory Hansell
Have you found that being authentic has been important in your personal journey as well? I can tell that it has been.

Sheva Carr
Well, you know, I always say to my students that I get to play with in this life, if you lie in your personal ads, then youre going to end up with someone elses soul mate. The same is true of unfolding the contribution you are here to make. You know, I am five foot two and sometimes I try to throw in a half in there and I weigh all of about one hundred and five pounds. So Im never going to be a quarterback for the 49ers. Its just not going to happen. And and those are obvious ways of saying, yeah, if youre true to yourself, you can make your greatest contribution because youll be aligned with what one of my teachers says is your grace. You know, your grace is doing naturally what comes naturally to you as flight comes to an eagle. And when you embody your grace, your purpose, an intrinsic part of all that is, manifests in the end. So that is what we help people to do at heart mastery and in my private coaching and consulting firm, Heart Ambassadors. But it really starts with that honesty and, you know, and for me it also starts with despair really, despair because I care so much. I will go into over care and despair faster than I can blink and then I have to deconstruct the despair and find the love that is underneath it and live from that.

Gregory Hansell
Well I think that is wonderful, Sheva. Lets just take a few minutes and take some calls. Perhaps we can help some people get in touch with their grace online today.

Sheva Carr
I would love that.

Gregory Hansell
First question wouldnt that be great? The first question I have is from Caitlin actually. She asks what was meeting the Dalai Lama like.

Sheva Carr
I have to take a breath for that. It was very deeply, deeply moving for me honestly. In the personal interaction that I had with him and the buildup to it, I found myself just filling up like a gas tank full of gratitude for his willingness to play out a blueprint of exile in order to bring in a world, his wisdom and joy. So when I had my personal interaction with him, I find myself just going into a humble bow of enormous gratitude pouring out to him and a desire to give him energy for who he is. And afterwards I was just shaking with love. And then spending a few days there with him was really just discovering this beautiful permission he gives us to be happy. That was it was just permission to be happy and really the traumas of his life give him authority to give us permission to be happy because most of the excuses that most of us can come up with not to be happy pale in comparison, you know, to having people in your own country emolliating themselves because of the persecution theyre under, you know? And he gives himself permission to be happy and laugh all of the time anyway and so its very liberating to be in his presence, to just realize, wow. I could look around and be delighted by the phenomenal world and enjoy it and that is its own a better world is already here when we open our eyes and laugh at what is here and enjoy what is here.

Gregory Hansell
Well thanks you, Caitlin, very much for that question. One more question we have from Steve who asks is HeartMath similar to meditation?

Sheva Carr
You know, it is sort of like saying is breakdancing similar to ballet. Theyre all forms of dance and you have to tell me what kind of meditation youre asking about. In my background I have studied comparative religions and all kinds of things so I have had the incredible blessing of learnings many of the worlds different forms of meditation. What I would say that makes HeartMath different from all of the forms of meditation Ive studied is that, its not necessarily different from but in support of, is that first of all it makes all forms of meditation more effective, but secondly it also offers a bridge so that in meditation, we often have to remove ourselves from life, life activities, to connect to ourselves. With HeartMath skills, you can both maintain and deepen that connection while maintaining your engagement with life. And so for activists, trying to make a better world or improve some of the worlds circumstances, that becomes a very important skill to have where you can stay engaged with life and connected to yourself at the same time.

Gregory Hansell
Well, thank you for your email, Steve. You can find out more at betterworldians.com, and were also tweeting this event so you can find out a lot more there and ask Sheva some follow-up questions.

Raymond Hansell
Sheva, thank you very much for joining us today. Your story is amazing. I think we could go on for at least another hour or two to really unravel some of the mysteries and mystique about where you have been and where you are now going and were excited to see more and more about what youre going to be doing in the months ahead. For our listeners, you can find out more about Sheva Carr and her work by visiting fyera.com. Thats F-y-e-r-a.com. Sheva, wed like to thank you today for joining us on BetterWorldians Radio and I really appreciate the time that youve taken with us.

Sheva Carr
Its been my pleasure to be here with you. Thank you.

Raymond Hansell
Youre very welcome. For our listeners, by the way, we have a guest next week that was mentioned earlier in this conversation. Next week well be doing a theme being a BetterWorldian through small acts of kindness with Donna-Marie OBoyle, author of the book Mother Teresa and Me which recounts her personal relationship with Mother Teresa in the last ten years of her life. We have an excellent lineup of guests in the coming weeks and if you know an unsung BetterWorldian who would make a great guest on the show, you can send us an email at Radio at betterworldians.com. In the meantime, Id like to thank everyone today for listening. You can join the Better Worldian community at betterworldians.com. Until next time, everybody please be a Better Worldian. See you next week. >> Thank you again for helping make the world just a little bit better this week. Please join your hosts Ray, MarySue, and Gregory Hansell next Thursday at 11 AM Eastern time, 8 AM Pacific, on the VoiceAmerica Variety Channel. We hope weve inspired you to do one small thing to help make a big difference. Join us at betterworldians.com to tell us what youve done to change the world.